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Okita Or Musashi?

I was wondering who is the better st saber servant. I'm saving quartz for merlin ofcourse but right now, I only have Saber Alter as my main Saber so I'm looking for an st saber like Okita and/or Musashi and I heard Musashi will be on new year. So which do you guys think is better?

Asked by Syonn6 years 6 months ago
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by zer0z 6 years 6 months ago

Musashi + Merlin is better, Okita is better independently.

EDIT: BTW based on what I've seen online, Musashi has the worst fanboys lol

Also, to expand, personally imo Okita is a little better since she is more independent, but their strengths are in very different things. Okita functions as a self-contained crit engine, she can generate and absorb stars pretty well, and has a crit buff too. Criting a lot also means she also generates her NP pretty easily.

Musashi, on the other hand, has a pretty telling skillset. It's pretty clearly intended for harder content with lots of buffing and debuffing involved. If you are building a team to counter your typical challenge quest, Musashi is a pretty good choice. She can pierce invincibility, has a single-turn invincibility herself, and has her own buster buff and NP buff. Also as said earlier out of all 3 SSR ST sabers she synergises the best with hard content king Merlin.

In summary, Okita is good for general use and functions well independently - she does one thing and does it very well. Musashi on the other hand has multiple different abilities which, while extremely valuable for harder content where enemies have invincibility, or spam debuffs, isn't really going to be of much use for most of the game's content.

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Now gotta pray to rng to get them both then.
Edit: Thanks for the good explanaition. Fk I'll just try and get them both. :D

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Okita is better in a vacuum, she's just a broken entity. Musashi is extremely flawed (triple buster deck, questionable NP gain, no star absorption, extremely difficult to setup and operate, etc) but is a good stick for Merlin to blaze with.

Merlin!Musashi is better than Okita...until Skadi happens, then Skadi!Okita makes Merlin!Musashi look bad.

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I choose Okita, my Shinsengumi party won't be completed without Okita.

For my Yorozuya and Gintama complete members 👊

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You have good taste right there, that's literally the best anime ever.

When i read Sakata Kintoki for the first time on FGO...i thought he was a Gintama collab.

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by Mysty 6 years 6 months ago

You can also try for saberlot. He is pretty self sufficient like Okita and easier to get as a non limited 4*

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I have Okita, and she is an outstanding ST Saber. She is extraordinarily independent and her Q cards generate almost as many (if not just as many) crit stars as Jack's. Also, her NP is extraordinarily powerful, even at only lv1, and she has a really dang good NP gain. That being said, Merlin + Musashi is arguably the best 1-2 combo in the game (well, I've heard that it's starting to become obsolete or something along those lines in JP, but that's 2 years away). So if you can get both Merlin and Musashi, Musashi is better, but otherwise, I'd say Okita hands down.

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Seeing a lot of people rip my "arguably the best 1-2 combo" comment, I will go ahead and add the disclaimer that this is based on hearsay. I don't play JP, so I have never actually run that combo or any other Merlin combo, so I can't give any personal testimony on that or on how good of a servant Musashi is in general. But I can say from experience that Okita is an outstanding ST Saber and you definitely would not regret it if you got her.

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I feel like Musashi does get overhyped a lot. When paired with Merlin she has the highest damage ceiling out of all sabers, that's true, but honestly there are much better out there, and Okita is just as good as she is most of the time.

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Okita's issue is Skadi's coming is so late for her or many other Quick servants. During that period, multi-hp boss are quite frequently seen, but Quick card's performance is largely inferior-ed. 2030 Merlin also almost killed Quick team.
On the other hand, Musashi is de facto one representative Buster style team. With 4060 dual Merlin or Merlin+Waver, she can straightforwardly slash any non-lancer class enemy. However, only 1 Art card, short lasting but long waiting skills are always her apparent drawbacks of her double-edge traits. If you have Merlin, then whale for Musashi is never a regrettable thing.

This topic make me remember how I quit Fandom FGO when arguing with some biased attack/abuse to Okita.

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by Syonn 6 years 6 months ago

Since almost everyone says that MerlinxMusashi is a good combo, I'll try to roll for musashi IF I get merlin. If not, Guess I'll just try one 10xroll on her banner and wait for another Okita banner.

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"the best 1-2 combo in the game"- "Musashi is de facto one representative Buster style team."

Guys, you are saying that Musashi has better Merlin sinergy than Jalter, Gilgamesh, Raikou, Ozymandias and Amakusa. Stop, you are hyping her too hard.

Musashi is middle in the pack on her Merlin sinergy.

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So which is better for you? okita or musashi? I'm actually lacking for a 5 star saber.
Edit: I did a quick backread and notice ur name on the earlier answers. Thanks for the good answer :)

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Well, "buster-style team" is arguable. Buster-crit team is not. She isn't great at that. That said, I can't speak for anyone else, but imo she doesn't have the best synergy with Merlin, it's just that she is better with him than Okita. The fact is, out of all SSR sabers, she has the best synergy with him.

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I already said my piece about Okita (Short term--->Merlin!Musashi > Okita. Long Term---> Skadi!Okita>>>Merlin!Musashi).

"Merlin + Musashi is arguably the best 1-2 combo in the game" or "Musashi is the de-facto representative of the Buster Style team". Those two comments were not comparing her with Okita.

They seem to be comparing her with the rest of the game, which includes other Buster servants that are way above Musashi's level. Basically, the buster servants who were dominating the game even before Merlin's release due to their individual superiority (Jalter, Cu Alter, Ozymandias and Raikou).

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----Musashi is de facto ONE representative Buster style team

Let me make it clear, I never said Musashi is the [ONLY] Buster style team. Or even in your view of my comment, "Musashi is the best Buster, typically with Merlin". Since Syonn is asking Okita vs Musashi, Musashi has 3 Buster deck which make her as ONE representative Buster DPS. excellent with Merlin, what is the problem? Before her, there is no such SSR non-berserkers has such deck.

Jalter, Cu Alter, Ozymandias and Raikou? Off course I know them since I have all of them with lv 10-10-10 skills except Raikou's 1st skill. I can also even say, why not make example of Karna/Bryn, Gil, Altera/ Modred/Artoria, and even Drake/Iskandar? All of them are Buster-oriented anyway. And "the buster servants who were dominating the game". Art team: When? Waver: I need to sleep.

Honestly, I am not a fan of Musashi, and probably never become fan due to some Extremist of Musashi fan attacking and abusing of Okita in Fandom. But when I use Musashi/Dual Merlin in CN and made ~250000 damage as final critical Buster of NPBBe (even not maxed skill), I already admit it as the most strongness. Also it is the biggest difference for Okita vs Musashi. 3 Buster deck is double-edge sword of her. Even other sabers (besides of AOE NP) are not same as her such as Altera, Mordred/Artoria.

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Triple Buster deck is a weakness for the most part, even more on Musashi's case when a good deal of her power comes from Arts critical (only 1 arts, no star absorption) with her gimmick active.

I'm talking of the buster damage dealers that dominated the game even before Merlin, Buster Meta was already there because the performance of Jalter, Ozy, Cu Alter, Gilgamesh and Raikou was over everyone else except Archuria. Musashi wouldn't be on that list because her performance is nothing to write home about.

On a individual comparison without considering Merlin, i can't say Okita is better than any of the broken buster units i mentioned above. But i can easily say that Okita is better than Musashi...only when you factor Merlin is when Musashi rises over Okita.

Do you know who else can crit for ~200k with a Merlin? Gilles De Rais (Saber)...Should we start praising Gilles as one of the strongest servants representative of the Buster meme? I say "Good Work, Merlin".

With this i don't mean Musashi is as bad as Gilles, she has her good stuff but in the end of the day, she's a decent stick that Merlin can boost...not representative of the best of the Buster memes.

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Why dont you understand that I said NOTHING related to her Buster performance is whether good or bad compared with other Buster-Oriented servants? Since when the word "representative" means BEST? I didnt even said "one MOST representative"

What I mean representative is her playstyle based on 3 Buster card is more noticeable as for Buster direction, typically there is no SSR 3 Buster deck non-berserker servants before her coming. So it is advised to utilize team support with Buster-support and NP charge for her, otherwise Musashi's 3 Buster is kind of another weak side of double edge sword. In other word, 3 Buster it is either her strongness or weakness, depending on how we utilize that and maneuver it. Therefore, generally we just keep straightforward to use her as Berserker-Saber. Think about many Lancers, no star absorption for Musashi is not a several problem since appropriate CE and Merlin's NP could be be somehow a remedy, but 3 Buster card is always 3 Buster card.

A judgement when she/he is good in a team is also a critical evaluation of servants is good or bad. Okita is great enough for self-sufficiency but will be struggling in future for tough fight (which is her most shinning area), since DW wont fix the broken Quick before Skadi. However Okita is still Okita. So is it easy and simple to answer whether Okita is good or bad than Musashi?

Same question, "the better st assassin servant", King Hassan or Jack? "the better st rider servant", Quezt vs Ozy? When people asking that, simply say like who's own performance no matter skills, NP damage/effect, or NP gain star generation, is quite insufficient when not considering what team can make them work more efficient. Or even some servants can do solo work, it is still related to "solo team". What is simplest way to evaluate servants' apparent performance? Just go ahead to gamepress's servant Wiki.

Almost everything you said I agree, typically we all in same direction related to Merlin as support. But still whatever, I said NOTHING related to her Buster performance is better than other Buster servants. Or let's say simply compare Musashi, Raikou, Gil, Jalter etc to WHO IS BEST BUSTER DPS is almost pointless. Sigurd as same of ST Buster saber also will do a wonderful job, but I mentioned him and made comparison with Musashi?

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I’m going with Okita, because her Daishouri melts my heart and she was my first good 5 star! (Sorry Artoria) I will also be trying to get another copy of her when she is available again.

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Have Merlin but I'm rolling for Okita. Have an Atalanta with quick buff at lv 10(50%) and Bond ce(15% quick buff) to pair with Okita. Hopefully it gives me similiar np damage or more than a Musashi + Merlin.

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I never had Musashi but I do have Okita so I’ll just give my opinion on them based on stats and skillsets alone.

Attack Okita wins by a few points and Musashi wins on Hp by a few points both are overall fine when it comes to stats leaning more to offense is great considering they are damage dealers.

Np gain for musashi is actually great but okita wins more with a 1.09% np gain. On paper Musashi can Np more with her fifth force on arts but overall Okita can charge more worthwhile with her 5 hit quick card.

Star gen is clearly in favor of Okita she has two 5 hit quick cards while musashi only has 1 no comparison

For card deck musashi has a triple buster deck which means more damage and Okita has a 2 quicks and buster which means more consistency. Overall Okita wins with her cards more considering her quick can generate alot of stars and helps them team in alot of ways than musashi’s buster (Her buster card deals more damage though)

Skill set is not really needed It’s clear that Musashi has the better kit with an Invul pierce, buff removal, invul and a rare hit count increased by twice. Okita’s is really basic yet effective kind the onyl thing that musashi wants to have from okita is her 2nd skill. They really need to buff her 2nd skill.

Np wise Musashi already outdamages her but Okita can compete some more with her 1st skill new passive providing a 20% attack buff per card so if she uses two cards first before NP she can get a 40% attack buff that ignores defense combined with a shukuchi of 50% quick up increases her damage further to 90% I’d say this is balance pretty much.

Their roles are easy to identify. Okita is a sub dps that is capable of generating stars for other teams (her saber class means she can’t snag stars without her second skill)

Musashi is more of a damage dealer with her 3 buster cards Overall I’d say okita is the winner just because of her consistency and overall flexibility she just offers star gen to her team and provide heavy damage aswell with a BBNP chain while Musashi is a main dps that has a better skillset overall they are good

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