I`m thinkin to grail up medea and cu to 90 or 80, but I already have another servants in the same class that work great, The lancers i have are: Summer tamamo, Summer Kiyohime and Li Shuwen, The casters are: Illya, Marie Antonitte, Medea Lily, Irisviel, Nursery Rhyme, Elizabeth Bathory.
I have 9 Grails and other servants i would like to grail up about Grail Chloe, Emiya, Kintoki Rider, Tamamo Cat, Summer Martha or Carmilla.
So who you recomend me to grail up?
Cu is always a good candidate for grailing. Someone who's hard to kill is now even more harder to kill. Anyone with really high peak damage, such as Robin Hood, Euryale, or Bedivere is also a good candidate for grailing.
There really are no wrong choices when it comes to grails though.
Grail however you want. Still, if you want gameplay details, rulers, avenger and berserkers are still the best opition, because of that dmg multiplier 1.1X (plus, there's no such a thing as soo much HP on a zerk).
Lancers have dmg multiplier of 1.05X, so they also get a (minor) extra bonus dmg from it, plus increasing Cu HP by ~1K/~2K will give him a little bit more survivability.
I do not recomend Medea as she's Caster, 0.9X dmg modifier, will get less from the attack up. Instead max her HP and Attack Fous, wait for the Golden Fous after that to max even more.
But again, grail is mostly an act of love, if you love her so much, go all out and lv 100 her.
As for me, Sabercelot and Chloe will get 2 grails because they helped me so much.
I won't Grail Medea then, thanks for the answer, I think I will Grail cu and Martha.
Martha would benefit most due to being a ruler. Cu and tamamo cat are decent choices as well. I would not grail carmilla as she does not really need the grails to be effective.
I will answer your question based from gameplay perspective.
Chu is a great unit to grail, since he is your last man standing and can save you from a lot of dire situation. Also you can solo so much content in FGO using him, he's really strong.
From other servant to grail, i will grail him to 90++ because he save me so many times and my top priority to grail.
A lot of people mentioned Li Shuwen as a grail target, because he is the Strongest Art Lancer in FGO. Spammable NP with Def down, very high Crit damage and Art damage up, basically Saberlot in Lancer class.
In term of performance he can beat most 5 stars.
Can kill Raid Boss within a turn, with the right supp. Imagine you stack those Def down while keep spamming NP and finish your opponent with a Merlin style Buster Crit ala Art Crit Nuke Li Shuwen style.
He also have Def ignore, Invincible ignore, and ignore evade kit.
Chloe is also good choice to grail, but from gameplay Li Shuwen totally beat her from the same Art playstyle. Maybe she has NP 5 but it's not enough to defeat those spammable Def down NP and those monstrous art Crit damage from Li.
People are wondering why i say Li is better choice to grail than Chloe. It's simple i have both of them and use them a lot ( both max ascended ), the differences is i don't use Li vs saber and Chloe vs Lancer.
Also i use heavy art team for years.
Summer Martha come as the only 4 star Ruler. That Offensive Buster playstyle while taking half damage is real good. She can have so much benefit from grail, such as bigger hp and higher atk. Can solo a lot of fight, she's really tough lol.
Give her few Def buff and she can tank AOE and ST NP with ease. I recommended her first, Offensive ruler is truly rare and grailing her also a great choice.
Last Emiya is different from those 2 Art servant. He can reduce damage with NP and his Def up skill while dealing very high Crit damage. Though his survivability is really good. With Art Crit durable team he can be your main damager.
He also famous as soloist. His kit is make him able to do that.
Pretty much a great choice to grail. If Li only think to one hit his opponent and Chloe to kill a Boss with spammable NP, Emiya is balanced and goes well with boss killing, daily Farm, and AOE mooks clearer.
One thing for sure, some people grail for love and some for gameplay, the choice is yours.
Sorry for the long post ^_^
Thanks for answering, I think I will Grail Martha and cu, You think Li Shuwen us worth even when I have a completely maxed tamamo Lancer?
If you have maxed Tamamo shark already you can raise another servant based on your needs. They have similiar purpose for boss slaying, i think Tamamo is enough.
Tamashark still have good use outside male killing job. Considering she's a 5 star with a solid kit. Her strength can make up for her weakness *cough* self stun *cough*.
I do like Li Shuwen, he makes a good pair with Proto-Cu and Vanilla Cu, yet his skills being just one turn and long cooldowns makes his immense arts crit dmg be sort of an one trick pony...
I think Kiyolancer is a little better as gold lancer grail material, the buster buff hit really hard...
Eh, I have a hard time really putting Li Shuwen on the same level as Saberlot or Chloe. Li has really bad NP generation, so how exactly are you going to stack up all these def debuffs with his NP? The debuff only lasts for 3 turns, and Li would be lucky to even get off more than one NP in 3 turns. Not to mention, if Li is only NP1, then he would need to somehow stack up over 3 of his defense debuffs just to make his NP hit as hard as Chloe. Chloe's NP hits almost twice as hard, and she can use it over twice as often. I think that alone more than eclipses Li's one turn of high crit damage.
Furthermore Li has a really low star weight. His star weight is even lower than a lot of supports (such as Jack or Mash), so the only time he will even be able to do much damage is just during that one single turn that his skills are up. When his skills aren't active, he won't be critting very often, so his damage and NP gain will both be very poor. Chloe has a high star weight, so she can easily get crits all throughout the fight, plus her crit damage buff lasts for 3 turns, instead of just one, and she also has a passive crit damage buff. With that, plus the fact that she can basically spam her super high damage NP every other turn, it's hard to really justify using Li over her except for in very specific situations.
As far as Li vs Saberlot goes, Saberlot shines in the sense that he provides his own stars, he has better NP gain, and his skills last for 3 turns.
I'm not saying that Li is bad or anything like that, but I think that there's a pretty good reason why he is ranked in a lower tier than Chloe and Saberlot.
Well good you have good point there mate.
Usually i use Chloe and Li based on different situation.
Chloe and Li can't defeat saberlot in terms of performance also this 3 have similiar gameplay like Art Crit and NP spam style but not do well in stall team.
And so far he's a high tier Art Lancer (only him) available in FGO.
Li tier 2 and Chloe tier 1. Also stated there with a supp tier 2 can achieve same performance to tier 1.
For a short time boss fight Li can one shot and doing min of 2x Def down to single target.
And for Chloe she's more tactical and flexible to use, because her CD is shorter and also come as free NP 5.
Li can use him NP up to 3 times ( usually just 2 times with 40% Def down ).
No matter how much i tried Chloe won't defeat Li damage in short fight, for total damage burst she can't nowhere gets Li level.
For more longer fight Chloe totally bested Li. Yes, Li totally loss here. Those long CD can't make up for Li to survive longer ( honestly when i seen his CD i feel so sad, well his job is to OHKO Boss in a few turn ).
Both can NP spam their NP, they're Art Crit unit afterall. Servant with 4.0 NP or above gain meter like stated in tier list parameter have possibilities for NP spam.
Also Chloe have better Capability of bringing down bosses with break bar.
Just like if Chloe rival is Squirtoria, Li's rival is Scat and massive burst damage servant.
Saberlot is another level, he's a monster i even try his performance vs Li and Chole the result is he bested both of them.
Thx for some advice there mate, even if i have use both for a long time my team still have that slight error.
As any help is truly appreciated so my Chaldea can grow stronger ;-)
I definitely would not Grail Medea unless you just like her a whole bunch. Casters gain less from Grails than other classes do, and I don't see why you'd be using her a lot outside of stripping enemy buffs, which she can do just fine without Grails.
I'm probably the only person that plays this game who never built Cu, so I don't have an opinion on that. I've just never felt like I particularly wanted to try to solo stuff, and I've never faced any content that was hard enough that I needed him. But if you find yourself using him a lot, then he's probably a great candidate to Grail.
Since you already have Tamamo, I wouldn't bother grailing any of your 4* Lancers.
Chloe and Kintoki Rider are both good options, imo. Unless you have Squirtoria or Ozzy.
Martha is also a good choice, if you use her a lot, but I personally don't find myself using her all that often. There's nothing wrong with her or anything, but I seem to lean toward using a damage dealer that has class advantage, or a berserker, in most situations.
