An upcoming AoE caster would be Caster Nero. She's basically an area wiper when it comes to her NP, and she has a great skill to boost its %. If you can hold off til summer, go for her
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Hi, first time posting!
I could use an AoE caster and I was wondering who you guys would recommend.
I have Helena at her first ascension for her second skill because I was hoping she could help me back with the Hassans challenge quest in Nero Fest. Maybe she was just not strong enough at level 40 but I was underwhelmed by her performance with her NP, and especially with the awful skill cooldowns. I realize I do not have her third skill which would obviously help. However she is now NP2 after she spooked me while I was rolling for MHXA (as did Astolfo AND Stheno, but still no Sith Lord), so maybe I should give her another chance?
I have CasGil (level 1, NP1) to consider as well. I understand he is better for Arts Crit teams and I do like to use my NP4 Saber Lancelot and I figured they would work well together.
Or Halloween Liz (level 1, NP5), who I just remembered I have lol.
If it helps, I already have my support casters: Hans, Tamamo, Waver, and Merlin all max ascended at least. I need pages and hearts for days hahaha (please send help).
Thanks for the responses, fellow masters!
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If you really need an AOE caster right now borrow a friends Da Vinci, otherwise Helena would be your best bet only cuz shes NP2.
A better option right now would be to use an AOE berserker.
(NP5 kiyohime post-interlude does as much damage as Single target Nps)
You can also wait for Caster Nero(Waifu + Really good Servant)
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There's a number of things going a bit against her. At L40, she only has only about 60% of her L80 ATK stat. Her NP is Arts, so that's less damage than if it were Buster. She's a caster, so her attack is only 90% of normal. And her 3rd skill would contribute another 15-20%.
Helena is more of hybrid support than a main damage dealer. Since you have caster Liz at NP5, that would probably work better for you, especially with a Merlin.
Nitocris is probably one of the better AoE casters who you might use as a main damage dealer, but frankly, if you really need a lot of damage, look at another class altogether :) IMHO, casters as damage dealers need to be used tactically, and not strategically.
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>Her NP is Arts, so that's less damage than if it were Buster
This is irrelevant when it comes to NP damage. Due to the card modifier they have the same damage on NP. In fact, having a Buster NP is generally a demerit for Caster Servants as their class passive Territory Creation does not affect their NP.
Only Quick NPs tend to have slightly higher NP damage after we account for the card modifier.
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Yeah, didn't think of that. However, it's also true that a Buster NP-first card would buff the damage of the rest of the cards, which is quite a great benefit in general, though with an AoE NP, that's probably not quite as important as with ST where you'd like to pound that single target.
I should have added this is all theoretical to me as I don't have Helena so haven't had the chance to actually use her (plus, I don't typically use a "support" support servant so I haven't ever picked her from friends, which would be hard anyways given that she only shows up twice on my list out of all my friends...).
I'd actually like to get her sometime, if I get lucky...
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>Yeah, didn't think of that. However, it's also true that a Buster NP-first card would buff the damage of the rest of the cards, which is quite a great benefit in general, though with an AoE NP, that's probably not quite as important as with ST where you'd like to pound that single target.
It is true, but sometimes Buster NP> Art NP for overall performance, sometimes not. Whether servants' NP is Art, Buster or even Quick really depending on what you want. Art AOE NP has advantage to recovery NP. Also it is even more advantage for Art chain in a team of Art casters.
Caster already has own poor offensive capability (even like Xuanzang or Nero), I think because of that whether Buster-NP first could buff damage could be not so critical as other classes of DPS servants.
Off course Helena also dont really posses such strong DPS ability as Nero or Liz, but i think not really related to her NP is Buster or Art. Normally people use her as "Blitzkrieg" style support to give maximum offensive power to your DPS's critical brave chain. Powerful but short-lasting.
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Helena is better for fast battles because of her long cooldowns. If you want to clear waves, she is one of the stronger casters to do it due to her 2nd and 3rd skills. Also, she'll receive an NP interlude soon. In conclusion: Yes, give her another go. ;)
CasGil is amazing too but fills a different role. I don't really use his NP for clearing waves but rather to generate stars.
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If you are looking for damaging AOE Casters, I'd look to Halloween Liz or Babbage. Babbage is easy to NP5, his skills work really well and he also has a Buster NP. Besides that, he can also take a hit.
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