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What and who are the 'Grand' servants?

Self-explanatory title. My knowledge on F/GO lore is rather poor, but on several occasions I've heard that Solomon is the Grand Caster, and King Hassan is the (former) Grand Assassin. I was wondering what exactly does this mean, and if Grand servants from the other classes have been revealed in JP yet. Can anyone enlighten me on this matter?

EDIT: I've read all the replies and I think I understand it more or less now. Hopefully they'll release more information in the recent future to clarify a few things. Thank you all for sparing some of your time to help me out. I really appreciate it!

Asked by StepOfDeath6 years 3 months ago
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Merlin is the new Grand Caster apparently, other than that we don't know anything about other Grand Servants.
But it is speculated that Grand Saber will appear soon in one of the Lostbelts, and there is a chance that one of the Lostbelt enemy Lancer will be a Grand Lancer.

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by zer0z 6 years 3 months ago

The lore isn't exactly clear about grand servants. They are the seven "greatest" heroic spirits, whatever that means. Doesn't look like it means in terms of combat strength, since each class seems to have some sort of other factor that qualifies a servant for the grand classification. Of these, the only one we know is caster, for which one of these factors is having really strong clairvoyance on the level of Solomon or Merlin, which is why both qualify for the title. Grand servants are all apparently much stronger than regular servants, not because of inherent differences in ability but rather because the way in which they are summoned is different. Other than the aforementioned grand casters, the only other grand servant we know of is King Hassan. Pretty vague stuff really, and Nasu is known to have retconed details about the lore, so take all of this with a grain of salt.

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If my memory serves me right, they are servants that are summoned by the counter force rather then by humans. The holy grail war that is the centerpiece of Fate Stay Night is a much weaker version of this summoning. All we really know right now about these servants are they are basically the "best in class" for their servant containers and since they are summoned by the world rather then by humans, they are an order of magnitude stronger then human summoned servants.

You can read up all that is known about them in section 13 of the London singularity in the my room section under materials -> singularity log. Just hit skip a bunch until you see Solomon's shadow and before and after his fight is where you get most of the lore about grand servants on the English server right now.

I don't believe there was ever another part going into as much depth from what I remember from the singularities.

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Yeah we don't know anyone beyond King Hassan and Merlin. Even JP hasn't had anything yet. It is all a mystery.

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http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Servant

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We don't know anything about the remaining 5 Grands, i just know that the ruler from the last Lostbelt could be classified as one but extra classes can't be summoned as Grand Servants so i guess it's just in terms of power.

We still don't even know about the remaining 3 Beasts and Nasu said FGO will end after Lostbelt so.. yea. Hopefully we'll get more in the next ones.

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To clarify some things:

1. Grand servants are servants that are summoned by the Counter Force. The Summoning Ritual of the Holy Grail War is a cheaply recreated version of that.

2. Grand servants are not wildly stronger than other servants. It's the title itself that grants them the strength they have. If servants are summoned using the same tier summoning ritual for the holy grail created by magus, the power levels wouldn't be drastically different. They are still strong as normal servant, but not remotely as powerful as they are with Grand title.

3. Strength and prestige are important for the criteria in choosing Grand candidate, but there's a certain particular criteria for each class that serves as the main judgement on whether one would be qualified. For Grand Caster, it's high tier Clairvoyance.

4. This is not cannon nor confirmed in any way, but just out of my own speculation, out of all the skills First Hassan has, it would be Evening Bell, that qualifies him for the Grand Assassin. I believe the skill that acts as a qualifier for Grand would be skills that allows the user to "see" death or manipulate it in some way or fashion. Another deft user of similar skill would be Shiki Ryougi and her Mystic Eye of Death Perception.

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Grand Servants are anyone barring power with Baldr you can all fight me if you disagree.

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