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Prison Tower door 4

in this quest Dantes insists that Jeanne is the avatar of Wrath. How is this possible? she was a saint and it doesn't look like she resents what happened to her, so she doesn't fit at all into this role...
Shouldn't the avatar of wrath be Jalter? or even better, Dantes himself would fit perfectly into this role, since he spent more than 10 years of his life after escaping prison seeking revenge against the people that framed him.

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I could be wrong but I think it was implied that Jeanne forced her way into the tower. She wasn’t really supposed to be the avatar of wrath. I think that’s why Dantes was so angry. Could be wrong though.
Edit: After watching the interaction again, it seems like Jeanne was supposed to be the avatar of wrath but I think the real Jeanne forced her way in instead of just a remeant of her going like the previous three avatars. This caused her to act like her normal self instead of being crazy like the others.

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Pretty much this^ although it’ll come to better light when subsequent arcs are revealed. It is the weakness of servants that manifests in Chateau d’If as a fragment of their soul, taking their form. Likewise, the fact that a servant can appear in Chateau d’If is proof that there is weakness in their heart. Phantom for envy, Fergus for lust, Gilles for sloth and.... so on. I believe it’s hinted that there is some sense of anguish in Jeanne that she herself does not realize.

All those who appears there are “the unworthy” according to Dantes.

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This is super interesting and makes total sense. I picked up on how much she seemed like the Jeanne we know from Orleans, etc compared to the other servants that were clearly different versions of themselves; we always see the "true" servant before/after in the Chaldea portion but Jeanne was the same both in Chaldea and the Chateau.

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Maybe, just maybe

A: it's Jeanne role
B: yep, no objection
A: but...
B: .... what?
A: how about we take her ruler form? Since we must at least make dante useful besides smashing zerker, right?
B: hmmm... nice idea. On it!

Then.... this happend

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This may be a cop out but I thought the “wrath” in that encounter was Dantes himself. All the previous Servants were already nuts or in Fergus’s case having a weakness exploited (ie being so horny even Medb can’t keep up). Jeanne however is the first that refuses to play along, and that seems to enrage Dantes. He assumed that she must harbor some hate for what was done to her, and when he found it she does not, it stood out in stark contrast to his own decisions. She is literally his polar opposite. I am guessing he is the one that brought you here, maybe to prove a point that humanity is not worth saving, and yet Jeanne made a strong case otherwise. Could be wrong however, I didn’t play the original event, and am just guessing based on what we’ve seen so far.

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