I wanted to take a poll from the community! Be it Merlin, a "waifu", or a servant you just really really really want be it for looks, lore, or gameplay --- what do you think is the ideal amount of Saint Quarts to save up to roll for them?
I know the honest answer is probably "enough quarts to actually get them", but that isn't so concrete of a number, as you can get any of the servants with a single summoning ticket, if you're lucky enough-- if that makes sense!
I'm looking for an actual number you'd be comfortable with. :D
If you want some perspective, it took touhou sniper (streamer) about 900 quartz to get Squirtle? Meanwhile people got her with tickets before even using quartz lol.
The expected mean probabalistically falls to 460 quartz. The median is more like 600 quartz though. Median gets skewed that heavily by the people that get him first try or with tickets
Hmmm.. I see I see. 900 quarts sure is rough. But at least they got her! I can't even imagine the levels of despair someone would go through to roll that much, and not get anything at the end. Just thinking about it.. ugh..that's just disgusting! But then again, it's why they call it "gotcha hell" right? D:
Somewhere around 460, or 600 sound far more survivable. And yes, a ticket would be even better! Hopefully though, we an all just roll our desired servants for far less than those super triple digits~!
Don't worry about him lol he's a veteran and a whale and has rolls the gacha quite a bit. He's used to it. If you ever watch his stream you'll hear the salt and it's funny
Haha I'll have to take your word for it then, and maybe I can go check out his stuff! I'm glad he's used to the ups and downs of the gotcha.xD
I've been really lucky so far and have only throw a few quarts here and there. I am excited and terrified for a more heavy handed investment..!
The 900 quartz was for Tama lancer. I think he initially had 1300 quartz or so. got the Tama lancer at around 900 and proceeded to np3 with the remaining quartz
I used this earlier in another post but it is accurate. Unless the gacha gods bless you and you get super lucky, if you really want Merlin you'd best hope that credit card limit is high enough ^^
Oh gosh, the reddit member is holding salt. LUL.
That's unfortunately very accurate I figure~ I heard that people were rolling around in the salt when they didn't get Jalter. I expect Memelin to be that, but on a whole other level... xD
What is “enough”? :I
In all seriousness, I’ve been doing Summon Simulations with the previous Jalter banner (probably the banner closest to Merlin for me tbh)
From what I saw the earliest I got her was 30 and the highest I saw took roughly 500 (I did 20 simulations and stopped whenever I got Jalter)
So for me, I want to roll for Merlin with the median 350 based on my results. If it gets down to the wire and I still don’t have Merlin, I may have to reorganize my budget :/
That's actually really interesting! I never thought to look at the summon simulations-- that's like putting in the actual rolls to get a feel for the rates, without spending anything. Earliest is 30? and then it took around 500 to see her again? I guess that really is the magic number, or the "enough" if you can really call it that. xD As for the budget, hopefully you get him before that point. :D
Not exactly
The first time took 30
The next time took 150
Then 360
Then back to 30
Then 210
Then 450
Then 150
And so on until the 20th time. I reset the quartz amount each time I get Jalter
It’s actually pretty useful
And thanks, me too. I’m really not looking to spend a lot haha
lol freagin summon simulators always gives me the SSR at 1st or 2nd try and never at the actual hahahaha
It’s not exact but if you use it like that, it gives you a general idea
For me, it took anywhere between 150-360 to pull the Rate-Up servant
So that’s about how much I’m aiming to use
The Prisma Illya event changed my perspective on how much quartz is enough. I didn’t realize how lucky I’d been previously; I hadn’t needed more than an $80 pack of quartz to get every five star I had wanted (Raikou, Ozy, Tama Lancer, Archer Artoria), so I assumed 160-ish quartz, plus the 90 I had stocked up, would be enough to get Illya.
It wasn’t.
It took me 840 QUARTZ to get Illya. And it wasn’t as if I got spooked by another five star. Over the course of 280 ROLLS, the game saw fit to award me a five star servant ONLY ONCE, and that was when I was in the final 10-roll of a quartz pack that I told myself I wasn’t going to buy. I had rainbow cards that turned into Medea Lily. I had cards that were sparkling gold in the weird lightning part of the simulator and turned into Nursery Rhyme. I started the event with none of the rate up casters and ended up with NP 2 Medea Lily, NP 2 Nursery Rhyme, and NP4 (!!!) Helena Blavatsky. When I finally got Illya, I wasn’t happy or excited; I was just relieved that this great burden had finally been lifted.
Bottom line: no amount of quartz is enough. The only way to survive is to be OK with not rolling a servant that you really want. It sucks, man.
Well, with all those new AOE golden casters with powerful NP lv, farming assassin nodes will be easy as hell for you...
Wanted just the CEs, got the 4* and 5* CEs, Nursery and 2 more copies of Ushi to NP5, finally...not bad, but I still prefered Helena (as a F2P, I never roll wishing for a 5*, even having some of those).
They are probably confusing gold rings with rainbows. I know I personally am always so excited when I start seeing sparks that I can never tell the difference.
I hate to be that guy but I was throwing exp tokens at my saberlot. And I told myself "if any one of these super successes or great successes I'll roll on whatever banner is on rateup now. Even if it's just thot queen." Basically roll till I get a gold card. The second ticket got a gold card. It was Illya. Smh the EX luck streak continues xD
Haha damn dude lucky you
I think mine might be running out. From what I remember, we had similar luck prior to this. Now, I rolled every ticket I got on this banner, probably around 10 or so as well as 9 quartz and the best thing I got was 1 kill on sight :(
Either this banner's cursed or my luck is beginning to die lol
I'm actually legitimately contemplating if I could sell this account for a profit. People drop 100s of dollars to roll. Well a profit would be anything above $80. I'm just wondering what it would be worth. But nah, half the fun is owning the virtual property and playing the game. It's why most of us play :)
Who would spend on an account with the servants in place though and mostly developped I suppose. Most of the rest of the fun (and 100% of the salt) is in rolling the gacha lol
Well you never know. There are some people out there who are willing to pay good money for accounts with their waifus. Whereas I'm pretty sure the price for a quartz-only account with no servants is at max still in the ten's of dollars.
Its really weird though, there seems to be a lot of disparity in price between mobile gacha games. I've seen YuGiOh Duel links accounts with 9000 gems being sold for 500 dollars (every 10-pack costs 500 gems), while an fgo account with a lot of servants and 900 quartz seems to sell for much less : /
Can't say I've explored the market much though so idk.
Pretty much. If it was in Japan or Asia I'd be more optimistic but in the US or even NA in general people are still dropping the big money on collectibles and real card games instead of virtually.
Not a lot play collection based games (most of those play hearthstone) and even fewer play gacha games. The market is probably small for people that would want to buy ready made accounts since most people aren't even aware of it as a cheaper alternative to multiple rolling. Then there's also the fact that the more serious players get attached to and feel ownership for accounts with servants they invested time in. Even non waifus
Yeah that's true. Mobile games definitely don't have the same popularity in America as they do in Asia. I think the US has a slight preference for console gaming while Asia largely favours mobile (PC master race is universal tho lol) and I can see how there'd be lots of cultural factors contributing towards that market disparity.
You're definitely right that rolling is one of the things that make the game fun. Now that I think back, the best moments in the game are always when you get the servants you were hoping for. If I'm being 100% honest, I think I'm already starting to get tired of this game since as a f2p there's not that many opportunities to roll and most of everything else in the game is farming. Still gonna stay, at least for the story tho.
And yeah, there are quite a few dedicated people who are willing to spend big money to roll for their favourite servants but are less willing to buy accounts that already have them out of some sense of obligation to get the servants themselves.
Me too. I don’t think I’d ever sell my main account, but when I think of how much I could get for my main account based on what I’ve seen so far- I get a little tempted haha
Jeeeez. I just saw an account eerily similar to mine go online for an absurd price. I won’t ever, ever, EVER, not in a million years sell my account but I’m telling you, I’m gonna be sick :/
I actually found them on this site
https://www.epicnpc.com/forums/889-Fate-Grand-Order-FGO-Accounts
If these are legit purchase prices, mine is worth about $285-$300 to the right buyer
90 SQs is enough for me lol. I normally get the rate up SSR or any SSR in within my first 3 ten rolls.
I got Nightingale, Tammy, Ozy, Squirtoria and Illya that way
I usually do too. But I wouldn’t put it past my luck failing when I need it most
So I need to prepare
The probability Vs quartz can be calculated here https://shipfu.moe/fgo/
Approximately:600 quartz has >90% chance
Depends how badly you want the servant. If you kinda want the servant, maybe around 300 quartz. If you really, really, really want the servant, as in Tier Zero Waifu/Husbando status, save up/buy 2000 SQ. That's not a joke, btw.
Hmm, I don't know. I'm a f2p player and reading claims of people spending quartz in the hundreds and not getting what they wanted (or at the most only a couple 4/5 star Servants) is a bit horrifyingly fascinating every time. If I roll and get nothing after 3 single rolls and/or the 10 roll then I stop, because the times I didn't I just got more stuff to be disappointed and frustrated at. I wait for next login and see if I feel luckier then. *shrugs* Reminding myself of the gambler's fallacy helps a bit, but limiting myself to 3 rolls prevents me from getting too stubborn for my own good and spending everything. I also think 3 rolls is sufficient to get something good, if the odds are in my favour. If they're not they will be other times. Admittedly, I'm not sure this would work if I knew I had more funds to be invested in this, haha.
I guess if I really wanted a specific Servant I'd try to save/gather enough quartz for a 10 roll or maybe two. And probably throw every summoning ticket at it I got. That's enough for me. Speaking of which, I tend to get better odds with tickets than spending 3 quartz, so unless the itch to roll is too strong I try not to use quartz that way. This is also the reason I currently have zero rolls left on the Friend point summon haha :D Gotta redirect that intensity somewhere.
