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Hassan challenge advise

Hello and sorry for still asking this question despite there being a guide and a few other similar questions with tactics. Just need to exchange ideas about what I'm doing wrong in the 3rd challenge.

Party:
70 Tamamo caster (still 2nd ascension, thanks to bone hell) with White rose CE
37 Cursery rhyme (emergency levelling her, since totally neglected other casters) with White rose CE
81 Raikou with White rose CE
Max level Eggplant without CEs / 80 Martha Rider for cleanse / 85 Martha Ruler for debuff immunity (tried switching these 3 out, to various success)
80 Heracles with White rose
Tried this challenge with standard outfit, combat uniform and atlas uniform.
Available friend supports:
90 Medea with White rose; 90 Da vinci with...some CE; 80 Nitocris with White rose; 90 Jeanne for healing; a few 80 Irisviels for healing and a 100 Jalter for awesomeness.

And yet despite these supposedly decent options, my best attempt was bringing the enemy count to 12 Hassans. The biggest issue is keeping party alive through death buffs, not the damage dealing.
Medea's NP apparently SHOULD dispel the death buffs, but she kills the Hassans instantly with it and dies off. Martha rider can cleanse it, but she gets wrecked in a few turns.
Is there some other way to get rid of death debuffs? Is there something simple that I'm missing? Or is there no other way than invest in Hans, whom I absolutely refuse to level or even put in a party?

Edit: Thanks for all the input, finally cleared the challenge after some levelling

Asked by southpaladin6 years 11 months ago
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Hello southpaladin, i am a rookie at this game but I can share with you how i managed to scrape by the Hassan exhibition match with my friend's support!

Maybe you can try using your lvl 90 medea, but without the white rose CE, because you need to damage the special Hassans and not kill it. Survivability of your medea shouldn't be a problem because she is a caster.

To add to that, maybe you can search for and use a friend's Nursery Rhyme + White rose CE (MLB preferably), because she is an excellent wave clearer for this entire match. Her NP can clear all 3 Hassans of each wave, no problem, maybe except the final Hassan with 100k plus HP.

So the process of handling this match goes like this - Start with Medea and Support Nursery Rhyme - charge up nursery rhyme's NP gauge while also charging your Medea's NP gauge. Fire off nursery rhyme's NP as often as possible, and clear off her accumulated debuffs with her 3rd skill. While doing this, keep your Medea's NP gauge charged and use her NP on the special Hassans once they appear. There is more than enough time to charge up her NP in between them. The 3rd starting servant can ideally be an Arts-focused healer, or even just Andersen because his NP is so spammable and can heal every turn.

As long as your Medea's NP does not kill the special Hassans, i am sure you will be able to easily clear this challenge. Best of luck to you, and hope what I said made sense :)

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Key thing is never never equipped the White Rose CE on Medea, else u will almost guaranteed to be killing the Hassan, I made that mistake on my first attempt.

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Thank you for your reply. The thing is, this 90 Medea is a friend support, so she's stuck with the Rose CE. I'll probably have to emergency level mine from scratch too. Tamamo really hogged all the earlier XP.
Sounds like I'll need to put this challenge on hold for a while, level up my casters some more and try it with Iri support or something.

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Actually there is no need for medea to be high level at all! I used my own medea, which was level 50 only and did not even have the 3rd skill yet. Just use her NP to remove the buffs of the special Hassans (including the last Hassan), and let Nursery Rhyme do the wrecking. Haha if you could level up your own Nursery Rhyme and put the white rose CE on her, it would be a piece of cake for you for sure!

Also, try using the atlas mystic code with the debuff removal skill, as you can use it to remove all the stacked debuffs as and when you need it too! Don't worry, get some sort of healing, get medea and get nursery rhyme or an AOE caster clearer and you should be okay!

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Jack the Ripper possesses information erasure which strips the hassans of their death buffs and possess dodge and other effects

A fully maxed out one would allow you to handle the first three.

For reference, my level 70 Jack handled the first two of them without any ranks the skill in which I then relied on sacrificing a unit for the third and using guts da vinci friend for the last.

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by Fear3d 6 years 11 months ago

Just out of curiosity, why do you absolutely refuse to level up Hans or put him in a party?

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2/3rd due to his voice: it absolutely doesn't match his appearance and it almost hurts my ears just listening to it. And 1/3rd due to his annoying personality in the story mode.

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Lol, I like the fact that his voice doesn't match his appearance. But in any case, since it doesn't sound like you have a Waver, you're really missing out by hating Hans. He would certainly make your life easier in a *lot* of situations. In fact, in some situations, Hans is better than Waver. This fight is a good example. Hans' healing comes in very handy for such a long fight, and it's actually possible for Hans to keep his defense buff rolling without any downtime, whereas Waver always has a 3 turn gap in between his defense buffs (though it can be compensated for in various ways).

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I clear the stage using nitocris, tamamo caster, and medea lily. Using nito’s guts skill to kill special hassan and immediately healing her with tamamo and medea lily i was able to clear the stage with only two casualties (tamamo and medea lily got kill by the final hassan’s aoe death buff) if you want to give her a try here is my friend code:735,831,936

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by Haagen 6 years 11 months ago

Amakusa.

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by Fear3d 6 years 11 months ago

I used a level 70 Hans, a level 70 Jack, and a level 80 Da Vinci (borrowed). They all had the White Rose CE, and Da Vinci's was at MLB. I just kept using arts chains whenever I could, then I fired off NPs when they were available. Hans kept everyone alive, Jack erased all of the death buffs, and Da Vinci did the bulk of the damage.

My Jack actually had no problem keeping up with the death buffs, even though I haven't leveled her information erasure at all yet, but it probably depends on how quickly you kill the mobs in between the bosses. It wasn't always available right as soon as the boss popped up, but I just avoided killing the boss until my skill became available. It always was available before the boss' charge gauge was full, so there was no problem. It's probably best to use the Atlas mystic code to be on the safe side.

You essentially need three things to easily clear this: a support that can heal (and some def buffs would be ideal as well), something that can remove debuffs from the bosses, and something that can do damage (ideally an AOE caster).

You're in kind of a tough spot, because you can only borrow one of those three things, but it doesn't seem like you're able to supply the other two at the moment. You can probably use Tamamo for the support (though I'm still going to advocate Hans for this, since he also can supply a defense and attack buff along with his heal). So then you've got to figure out if you're going to supply your own buff remover or your own DPS. If Martha is your only buff remover, then you might want to borrow someone else, since she is so squishy against a horde of assassins. In that case, you'd want to level your Nursery Rhyme and use her as the damage dealer, then borrow someone else that can remove the buffs. It would be kind of a shame to level up Nursery just for this though.

Another option would be to level up Hans, then borrow an Amakusa Shirou. Tamamo + Hans + Shirou should be able to pull it off.

You're probably going to want to stick with a high sustain arts team and avoid using those berserkers for this particular fight though. They're fragile enough as it is, and even moreso once they get stacked up with the debuffs.

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Oh, I just noticed that you mentioned that you have a Medea un-leveled. You can also just level her up some (she doesn't need to be maxxed) and use her to remove the debuffs. Then use your Tamamo and borrow a Da Vinci that has the White Rose CE. You can use some other AOE caster instead of Da Vinci, but she is ideal because she has debuff immunity, plus a heal, plus some other goodies.

This would probably be your cheapest option, since you don't really need to max Medea or anything. You just need her high enough level that she doesn't die. It would be kind of a shame to try to max out Nursery Rhyme just for this, because she's probably not a servant that you're going to be using all that often.

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by Rezrl 6 years 11 months ago

Okay. I will share the lineup that I used to win the exhibition.

Medea Lv. 50 - white rose
Hans Lv. 25 - white rose
Tamamo lv. 90 (support) - prisma cosmos (maybe)
Nursery rhyme lv. 50 - white rose
Illya lv. 72 - white rose
Chloe lv. 72

The main damage was coming from medea’s rule breaker.
I need to use hans and tamamo for the sustain.

Tried to use nursery and medea together but they can not sustain until the end. So, i decided to use hans.

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Hi! This is my party when I beat this challenge.

Lvl 30 Medea (emergency lvling too) with prisma CE
Lvl 50 Davinci chan (MLB white rose here)
Lvl 90 Tamamo (friend support, joint recital CE)
Lvl 35 hans and lvl 30 summer Marie at backline just too survive the last hassan if things goes really wrong. Thankfully they never came to frontline :D

The goal is just keep spamming da vinci np (deal around 70k dmg with mlb white rose) while tamamo stall and heal others. Medea is just for hassan boss. After she dispel, I spam davinci and tamamo arts cards (and occasionally medea just to get her to 100%). Aaand thats it :3

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Thanks for all the input. I finally managed to clear this challenge after some levelling. Here's the final party:
25 Hans (NP1) with Volumen CE for survivability;
40 Medea (NP1) with White rose for dmg boost
(support) 80 Nitocris with White rose
46 Nursery rhyme (NP1) with White rose
70 Tamamo caster with White rose
61 Babbage (NP5) with Projection to round out the casters.
Used Mage outfit for this run. Opted to ignore dispelling regular debuffs and go full AoE instead to power through.
Hans sort of kept the party alive long enough to reach Serenity, Medea dispelled death buffs, Nitocris cleared waves. Then Hans and Medea die, so Tamamo and Nursery step in to take over Healing and switch to AoE cleaning. Babbage sort of ended up being a tank near the end.

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