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Another question... Helena or nursery?

So gacha pour caster to my chaldea long time ago (sorry to snatch ur word)
And it's Helena and nursery
Both at level 40.

I know maybe I should not compare them but still... I want hear some thought about this... since it will be hard on me for even raise one of them.

I already have
Lancelot at 80
Hans at 60
Eli caster at 70

Asked by aluzie26 years 6 months ago
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Well it really depends on what you need. Helena is a decent support with bad cool downs, while Nursery is a crit-based caster.
As someone who uses Helena a lot I can say that she is a great support for farming or just trying to clear nodes in three turns.
If what you need is an offensive AOE caster than you have the better option already, Eli Caster, as I'm assuming you have her at NP5.
If you want to mess around with crit teams or NP spam than Nursery is your girl.
I hope this helps.

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Thnx for responding. That's why I'm at lost.

Already have offensive AoE caster. Already have crit teams.

But how come nursery can be np spammer?

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Helena if you in need of a support. She's the closest thing we can get for a quick support for now.
Nursery is a great np spam and boss killer. Raise her if you need a ST farming caster.

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Helena is more famous for her supportive role. There was no such servants can provide art-quick-buster triple buff to team. Her issue is her CD for skills is way tooooo long, then as a supportive servant, normally her role is to provide your DPS maximum support in a few turns, finish the battle as Blitzkrieg, particularly in a critical team. You can try her with Lancelot+Hans versus lancer, or with Liz + Hans versus Assassin.
She indeed has AOE NP but she NP damage isnt that high (especially right now), her NP is capable to provide debuff to enemy which shown more tactical function than simply pouring damage.

Nursery on the other hand has more restrict function: kill the enemy. She could be one best offensive caster because of her 1st-3rd skills are top-tier liked, but the critical issue is: she require other servant to send stars to her, since herself cannot easily generate enough star. Meanwhile Art-critical team still wont be paired with Buster critical team to deal damage. Therefore, imo, Nursery is really good as offensive caster but also really required good team composition.

It is not a bad idea to have Helena+Nursery+Hans in team against assassins, but if you dont have 2030s, Waver and Tamamo, then Liz caster can more or less replace the role of Nursery.

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I second this, Helena function the best in the shorter fight or like mentioned before by DR. WC is more into Blitzkrieg, to deal damage as much as you can in a few turns.

Just hope DW don't reduce her CD, if they reduce it then technically all of her problem is gone. Imagine 3 turn powerful all cards buff with just 5/6 turns CD.......then people will just raise her immediately after they got her from gacha, NP 2 ++ will destroy things far more easier.

She can debuff her enemy with def down, give Crit star every turn, buff party members cards effectiveness, party instant battery.
Even i'm still using her until this day as my top supp to destroy things easily for a short turns, my favorite pick when i'm dealing vs bosses with just a big single HP bar or raid bossess.
Along with Waver or Merlin 2030 then everythings is demolished.

To put it more simply, she's tactical. Non-tactical farming team can't utilize her into her prime, but if we make the team members more tactical then everythings is easy-peasy.

Bonus : like you said before, i've done something similiar. I'm using Helena ( 2030 ) + Hans ( 2030 ) + friends Waver ( 2030 ). Waver as my main Art Crit DPS and his damage is insane, Hans Crit buff + 40 % + Waver Crit buff + 50 % then with just 2 cards assassin/zerker is totally gone. Don't forget every single one of them can buff others too.
For 3-4 turns, every card is guaranteed critting.

I'm using this only when countering Assassin heavy enemies, Waver as the hard carry or another Art servants with Crit kit. One of my available secret weapon that i use on dire situations.

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