It was recently pointed out to me that Fionn will become a great 3 turn farmer. With some arts boosts and Np charge he manages to use NP every turn.
The team that was used consisted of Fionn (k-scope), Paracelus, Waver and Tamamo(bond CE).
The video was interesting and his damage was far high than I expected. Each use dealt above 100k per enemy at NP2 when he had class advantage.
The downside is that his skills needs to be raised high since all of them aids his np refund or charge (his second skill turns into a battery). A second flaw is that it will require all of his strengthening quests so it will take while.
Except for Fionn the only other servant I've heard of that is capable of doing that is Rider Mordred (and some double Skadi teams) so I'm wondering if there are any other known examples? Technically I guess Nitocris counts but isn't she limited to two uses?
In all honesty my interest is mostly to streamline my farming teams for events and lotteries. If I only need one servant then that CE loss will be well worth the time it saves.
Lancer Artoria can do 2 back to back NP pretty easily. Her NP gives a 20% NP refund on use and she has a 50% charge skill, so she only needs another 30% change from waver or her other cards to do 2 NP in a row.
Parcelus can kind of do the same thing with his 80 charge skill but he hits like a wet noodle.
Hmm. I've never actually thought about using her for that.
Most of the time I use a support Waver to cover my lack of K-scopes so I haven't tried out many team formations.
For me Arash, Helena and support Lalter (if she has K-scope equipped), Shakespeare plus the MA uniform would work. I'll have to check my friends list.
Thank you for the tip, I believe it is time to start experimenting again.
Caster Sieg does the same thing with that Fionn's setup (he'll be a freebie from Apocrypha Event).
Oh. I completely missed that, I didn't read that much into his skills.
I remember considering using him just like Spartacus. Slapping on an IE or other CE and using him to blow up a wave.
After checking his skill values and comparing them to Fionn, I admit that they are almost equal. Sieg does have higher np gain on attack but his Magecraft is slightly inferior.
And as a wellfare it would be far easier to gain overkill due to his NP5. A pity that event will happen in 2020.
Da Vinci can get close with an np arts brave chain, especially with her 2nd skill active (10% np for 5 turns). And if that doesn't make 100%, skill 3 is a 50% battery at max. And her AoE damage is way stronger than von hohenheim.
Thank you for the tip.
I'll keep her in mind but unfortunately I neither have her nor is she strangely enough on my friends list.. I was sure a few had her but I guess a bunch of Merlin replaced her.
For me, i'm mainly using Art servants and teams to do back to back to back NPs, AOE or ST as long as the condition met then it's good to go.
AOE servants :
- Gilgamesh Caster, High NP gain per hit count. If you encounter a min of 3 enemies, well that's gonna be a walk on the park. Give him NP gain + Battery CEs and go have a smooth ride. If you don't have him, prioritize using your own Helena first.
- Caster Helena, Art servants is famous for their NP spamming ability. You need a premiere NP gain CEs and party that specializes in NP spamming to do this when you're using her.
- Paracelsus, like mentioned before he hit's like a wet noodle but everyone have him on their inventory and he's also summonable from FP Gacha. Not everyone have SSR Lancer Artoria but everyones can have Paracelsus on their Chaldea.
Raising your own Paracelsus can help improve your NP spamming or back to back NPs quality.
In terms of damage, he loses to Davinci and Lartoria but in terms of teamworks he totally beat them, especially NP spamming and back to back NP and he can also be your Art support ( our main focus here is a servant or team that can help achieve back to back NP, not only the damage ).
Not everyone can have their own Davinci but everyones can have Paracelsus on their Chaldea.
Benefits of using your own Paracelsus :
- You can borrow support Waver, Tamamo, friends Lancer Artoria or Davinci or any servant that you really want to use.
- he is specialized in the NP spamming team and back to back to back NPs and Art teams.
- pick a friends Mordred or any Art servants and you're good to go.
- don't always see the other servants weakness first, a good master can cover their servants weakness. That's why teamworks is very important in this game.
- he's a full fledged support with AOE NP, not a main DPS like Lartoria or Davinci.
- Asterios, back to back NPs is possible when you're fighting a boss with huge HP and high hit count. His NP deal no damage, but he can offer you nasty debuff and can even make your farm easier ! Give him NP starting CEs ( if you want instant NP and use him on dailies to help your work shorter and faster ) or NP gain CEs ( NP gain if you can cover him when building his NP gauge up ).
- Assassin Scathach, like mentioned by people she can do back to back NP Spam if you can give her a proper and good team.
- OG Nero, like mentioned before Art servants have amazing ability to do back to back NP or NP spamming. Need solid and proper team to do it.
ST servants and other servants that can help you do that :
- Nero Bride, you can using her help to focus on a single servant to do a back to back NP or NP spamming. Prioritize a servant with high base NP gain if you're using her.
- Waver, no comment he's simply broken.
- Tamamo, one of the pillar of NP spamming teams.
- Medea, targetable NP gain for a turn.
Sorry for the longpost, soon there will be even more amazing servants and teams that can help you do this things.
Sorry for the delayed reply, was a bit busy due to work.
-I'm actually very interested in Gil but I got spooked several times on that banner. I'm currently torn between picking him or Lancelot saber for the next SR ticket.
I'll try Helena, it might be doable if I raise her NP with my duplicates. The extra damage might be enough to trigger additional overkill bonuses.
-I managed to do some dailies so Paracelsus is at least max ascended now. His skills are currently capped at 6 due to pages, but I think it will be enough for some concept testing.
Since it will be a long time until he gains the NP gain up buff I'll probably hold there until my priority servants are maxed.
*-When it comes to support I'm actually lucky. It took most of my saved SQ but I rolled Tamamo during Halloween.
I guess it is countered by my lack of K-scopes or Waver.
*He does have a kit that looks specialised and in the worst case his Np will trigger an Overcharge.
* I admit that I'm usually looking at weakness and have an aversion to longer cooldowns (which is a moot point for this kind of team). I've improved at least a little and appreciates Tamamo's arts fix.
*I've been curious about Asterios and I'm slowly raising him for future bosses but....
You make a very good point, if I reduce the defence that much it will mean a far larger np refund. I do wonder if it might be a downgrade since it is a one turn and that an arts buff might be more effective.
Only one way to find out.
* Scathach sounds promising but I find it harder to build a team for her since Quick buffs are less common. The other downside I see it is that they tend to lack a single turn except for Alexander and Helena. I might put that on a hiatus until summer 2020.
-I've thought about using Nero but her np refund did not seem that high when used solely with Tamamo. Will try it out with Halloween see and a few more buffs.
-*I've not used Nero Bride that much, mainly due to support Wavers being far too useful.
* Oh..that was interesting. I must have misread Medea's skills then. I was convinced the np gain buff was for herself.
I appreciate the long post, it helped me consider other Servants I had discounted long ago. I really need to be more open minded.
