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non caster support/heals?

Hello kind people, I need some advice.

Though I lack some things I'm more or less covered on the firepower department. I usually run my dps+hans plus some support that fits the situation best and that's been working wonders since I started back on the summer event.

My only problem are rider enemies, your everyday farming quest is not that hard, but challenges/bosses/long fights sometimes are a pain since I don't have a proper set up for this situation. Berserker nodes are easier unless I get that unlucky crit, rider enemies tend to crit more so that's that. I'd appreciate some advice for a good set up.

I got Emiya and Carmilla plus Jalter. I have all bronze servants np 5 already too. I couldn't get all materials to ascend summer scathach since I started late on the event. I just started working on Mashu but she is still story locked 60. Granted I got Carmilla recently so I haven't invested in her yet, I've read she is pretty solid but I still need a set up to work around her.

Asked by little_knight6 years 7 months ago

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David has a party evade/heal and attack up that is quite useful. Tristan has the same party evade/heal.
Fuuma has targetable evade.
Alex has party attack up and quick up.

Carmilla 3rd skill (unlocks only after you do a ST quest, which unlocks after 4th ascension) does gives you some stars per turn, like innocent monster, also reduces the crit chances of one enemy by a lot for 3 turns, instead of self-def down demerit.

Also, she has class advantage against Riders. You can use her as passive a star-generator in Rider nodes, and maybe secondary DPS. She can heal herself 2K HP with the NP, which gives her a sizeable 20% attack up for 3 turns as well, compensating the bad 3 quick deck.

Alternatively, Phantom of The Opera has the same Innocent Monster D of Hans as well, as his 2nd skill, and an Arts AOE NP, which is proper for farming, but he's kinda weak...he also assassin, so class advantage VS Riders as well.

Caesar 3rd Skill is a targettable crit dmg up for 3 turns, with def down demerit to the partner affected. He also has charisma C and Tactics B.

Saberlot 3rd skill will generate a lot of stars, even more than Innocent Monster EX from Caster Eli, but he usually takes them, unless you run with Riders, and make sure to not use his second skill.

Lancer Vlad has Innocent Monster A, which secondary effect is a one-turn taunt, instead of def down demerit...also, Tactics.

Blackbeard has a party attack and np buff, as well as a party heal that further heals females.
Leonidas can taunt and give buster performance up.
Caesar is obese, but offers charisma, tactics and crit strength up plus generates some stars.
Alexander has charisma for party attack up and a party quick buff.
Ushiwakamaru has charisma and a party np gain buff.
Fuuma kotarou has attack & crit down in one skill, targetable evade and np offers chance to skill seal every turn.
Hassan of the serenity has debuffs for days. She can kinda shut down riders.
David is good, but he needs foreign god hearts to ascend so... yeah no.
These are all low rarity servants, but are still useful. Every servant can have a purpose. Nerofest showed me that.
Personally Id recommend fuuma or hassan of the serenity for riders until you get better servants. Hans is really good, just squishy so riders will melt him. Also, friend supports can probably solve all your problems. Lvl 70 mash is amazing, as is Waver. A friend’s Jack the ripper can destroy riders & possibly heal spam with a 4 turn cd at max.

Well.. Shuten is someone you needed. She has Charm and Defense down (applicable on all genders btw and genderless) and an Attack Buff and NP damage up for her. The most tasteful would be her NP since she can inflict Defense Down, Attack Down, Np damage down, skill seal and crit chance down for 3 turns. Another would be Nightingale for healing and attack debuff on her NP. Though they are hard to come by since they are both SSRs and Shuten is limited but it's worth it since she has an advantage against Rider Opponents. 😯

You want og jeanne.

Emiya is good for star gen but his damage can be limiting. Carmilla has kinda poor star gen for an assassin and her NP is her best quality. But pairing them with a friend supports Jack for heavy single target damage would be key. If you need AOE damage someone with Cleopatra is ideal as she can charge her NP in one chain with her second skill active and some crits. I personally find it best to run 3 assassins against rider bosses, especially since dragons can devestate berserkers. I have max level Jack and Cleo on my support list and Shuten as well if you need help. My ID is 825,960,988

David and Tristan for archer. Both have heal + evade skill.
Martha for rider. Her healing is top notch. Nightingale for berserker but she 5 star so you might not have her.

Taunt servant: - D' Eon(Saber), Leonidas(Lancer), Benkei(Lancer), George(Rider), Scathach(assassin)

Nero Bride can also act as support servant. She have 3 single target support skill(NP gain+, atk+, and 3k heal(lvl 10))
Charles Henry Sanson can also heal+clean debuff with his healing skill.
Fuuma Kotaro has targetable evade, atk down and debuff resist down.
Scathach(Assassin) have targetable heal and taunt but her skill kinda mismatch (taunt+crit up, heal + def up, Quick up + Pierce invi)

Jeanne D'arc - Invi+regen on NP.

Mash - Def up, taunt, targetable invi. Her NP also def up + atk up.