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Which caster?

So between the recent banners I have da Vinci, and I have a NP4 nicotris. Which is better to work on? I know 5 stars are better in general but sometimes it’s up for debate with a higher np. What do you guys think?

Asked by brandonbe926 years 11 months ago
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by Neil 6 years 11 months ago

For waifu reasons: Nitocris easily. That 4th Ascension artwork is one of the best. If you want an offensive caster though Da Vinci might be better as the np would do more overall. Death inducing spells and nps are hard to rely on consistently.
Neither caster is a very good support though and the damage multiplier makes it hard to rely on casters for nuke. Da Vinci also has better survivability too with those active talents

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If it's something that can be instant death'd(silver/bronze enemies + hands and I think doors) Nitocris is better otherwise Da Vinci is better. Nitocris is the single best farming servant in the game though thanks to her instant deaths so I'd go with her as most of this game is farming.

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If my calculations are correct:
- Da Vinci at NP 1 will deal 47,691 damage
- Nitocris at NP 4 will deal 64,552 damage

Right now, Nitocris is the better farmer/wave clearer. However, on harder content her instant death niche will become unreliable and thus Da Vinci will have more consistency and durability in the long term. While both has a heal and guts, Da Vinci wins in terms of stats so she has better durability.

TL;DR: For farming purposes, go Nitocris. Otherwise, go Da Vinci.

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How are you doing calcs? All the spreadsheets put Da Vinci at 25k and Nitocris at 19k. Well Nitocris's varies a bit because... reasons? Either way it's always much less than Da Vinci's and niether do near the damage numbers you say.

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I calculated it based on their respective attack stats at max level in consideration with their NP damage multipliers.

Da Vinci: 10,598 * 4.5 = 47,691
Nitocris: 9,060 * 7.125 = 64,552

Although I didn't take account Da Vinci's built-in NP buff so here's an update: 47,691 * 1.3 = 61,998

Da Vinci still hurts for less if my calculation are correct. Note that in actual practice there should be other numbers in place such as class modifiers, passive abilities, etc. which I did not take account for, so I might be very mistaken here.

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Dunno where you heard it but thats not how damage calculations work at all the formula is:
[servantAtk * npDamageMultiplier * (firstCardBonus + (cardDamageValue * (1 + cardMod))) * classAtkBonus * triangleModifier * attributeModifier * randomModifier * 0.23 * (1 + atkMod - defMod) * criticalModifier * extraCardModifier * (1 - specialDefMod) * {1 + powerMod + selfDamageMod + (critDamageMod * isCrit) + (npDamageMod * isNP)} * {1 + ((superEffectiveModifier - 1) * isSuperEffective)}] + dmgPlusAdd + selfDmgCutAdd + (servantAtk * busterChainMod)

When you fill all that in Da Vinci hits harder.

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As someone who has Nitocris at max lvl, I would say go with DaVinci. Nitocris is basically only good for farming the dailies. Her NP relies on instant death which most enemies in the harder battles will resist. Her NP is weak even as a caster goes. DaVinci has a better kit and will serve you well in more than one role. Save Nitocris for later is my advice

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